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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 07:27 Reply with quote

I created a DVD with my hard disc recorder. Unfortunately I meixed up the sequence of the 5 films on it so that I now have the episodes in sequence 3, 1, 5, 2, 4 Sad

I managed to change the DVD structure, using myDVDEdit in such a way that, after each episode the correct next one is started.

But is there a way to change the pictures of the menu buttons so that the episodes appear in the correct sequence in menu?

I think for this I have to extract the pictures, and reimport them in the correct sequence.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 09:09 Reply with quote

That would be simple if it was a simple picture but it's not. It's a MPEG 2 encoded movie, even if it does not move.

myDVDEdit cannot do that. You must use a authoring program like iDVD or MovieGate to recreate your menu.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 10:09 Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply, Jérôme.

I don't want to reencode the films because they are already heavily compressed (4h on a 4.7GB DVD).

Here is what I tried:
1. I used some .mov file of just 1.2MB size from the internet to have something
2. Copied that movie 4 times to have 5 movies to start
3. I created a project with iDVD with 5 buttons to start each of the films
4. Created a DVD image
5. Copied the image contents and replaced the 5 .VOB files by the 5 original .VOB files

Unfortunately it seems that the 5 movies don't correspond to the 5 vob files Sad One of them for example jumps directly to the last 2 Minutes of one of the films Sad

I think I'm to stupid for all of this ;-/
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 11:11 Reply with quote

Yes you can try something like that but you forget some details:

- iDVD generate DVDs with 1 title = 1 VTS file. It's not always the case with other authoring programs. Be sure the source and target DVD structure is the same. If in the source DVD, two titles are in the same VTS file, that will not works.

- You have to looking for the menu .MOV file to be sure you will not erase it.
Open your new project (before any replacement) and look how it is generated. Sometime the menu is in the VMG Menu, sometime in a VTS Menu.
If it is in the VMG Menu, you must conserve VIDEO_TS files (.IFO, .BUP .VOB) en remplace all VTS_??_? files by the new ones.
If the menu is in VTS Menu 1, conserve VTS_01_0.IFO (.BUP) + VTS_01_0.VOB en remplace with rename the others.

- Dont forget to copy the .IFO and the .BUP files corresponding to each .MOV files

- After all of that, open the project with myDVDEdit to fixe the title offsets, and save the changes.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 23:03 Reply with quote

That's complicated and if I understand you correct, No way to go for me, as my 5 films seem to be spread over the 5 VOBs, starting somewhere in the middle Sad

Too bad.
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2008, 02:13 Reply with quote

I didnt say that.

you said you have 5 VOBs, but how many VTS_??_0.IFO files.

if you have
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_02_0.BUP
VTS_02_0.IFO
VTS_02_1.VOB
...
VTS_05_0.BUP
VTS_05_0.IFO
VTS_05_1.VOB

you can do something

If you have
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_5.VOB

it's dead.

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2008, 12:10 Reply with quote

The mixed up original has
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_5.VOB

The iDVD image has
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_02_0.BUP
VTS_02_0.IFO
VTS_02_1.VOB
VTS_03_0.BUP
VTS_03_0.IFO
VTS_03_1.VOB
VTS_04_0.BUP
VTS_04_0.IFO
VTS_04_1.VOB
VTS_05_0.BUP
VTS_05_0.IFO
VTS_05_1.VOB

So it's dead Sad

So I have to live with the mixed-up menu or find a way to extract the films from the VOBs without reencoding, I guess.
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2008, 13:32 Reply with quote

Yes, you can.

Extract each title separately with YadeX (free) or MacTheRipper(Free or Shareware).
Use MovieGate (Shareware) which allow to create DVD from MPEG2 streams without reencoding with Menu.

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2008, 14:33 Reply with quote

Thanks for the hint. I just finished trying to use MtR. I extracted the VOBs and replaced the ones created by iDVD with mine. Opening the result with myDVDEdit tells me about incorrect lengths which have been fixed. I saved that and tested the result in DVD Player. No Sound Sad

But I'll keep on trying Wink

Thanks Jérôme
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2008, 16:45 Reply with quote

You did the same mistake.

VOB files are nothing in DVDs without the corresponding .IFO files.
As you replace only the VOB files, that cannot works.

You must rebuild a DVD with MovieGate, the only authoring program that accept VOB files without reencoding.

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Jan 2009, 16:19 Reply with quote

So extracting with MtR, which just rips out VOB files doesn't help, except if I use MovieGate, because that can create the IFO files from the VOBs? Man! This IS complicated Wink

Update: MovieGate 2.6 tells me, it can't handle VOBs Sad 3.01 doesn't work with Tiger.
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Jan 2009, 09:22 Reply with quote

I found a way to a Solution (I guess). tele2dvd accepts my VOBs. Unfortunately just 4 of the 5, because of it's fixed menu size. But since it's just a GUI to dvdauthor and other commandline tools, I guess I should find a way to get my Primeval season 1 into the correct sequence.

Many thanks anyway!
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